Sep 12 2007
Kathy Griffin tells it like it is… and gets censored.
It’s always funny how most celebrities who win awards have to throw in the obligatory thanks to God, as though it was God itself that got them that good agent or whatever. Comedienne Kathy Griffin won an Emmy award on the E! television network recently and had this to say:
In her speech, Griffin said that “a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus.”
She also said, according to her website, “Can you believe this shit? Hell has frozen over. Suck it, Jesus, this award is my god now.”
Ah, the things that make an atheist smile. Of course, this has Catholic hatemonger/homophobic/racist William Donohue’s panties in a wad. What is it with these far-right Catholic types who view any criticism of their myths as “hate speech”? Donohue would know, he’s got hate speech down to an art form. And the E! television channel is keep in Griffin’s “offensive” remarks out of the final broadcast, to make things even more ridiculous. It’s not like she said “fuck” or something. And she’s a comedienne, for Chrissake… many of them make their living offending people. Anyways, kudos to her for speaking up.
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Doesn’t atheism require just as much faith as religion? You can’t know there isn’t any more than someone else can know there is.
That's a complex question. It's much easier to be an atheist, simply because we're not making any claims of the existence of something while offering no proof. I don't see any evidence of God's existence, and the claims of its believers are quite ridiculous. It's not really "faith" that there's nothing out there; it's that nobody's been able to make a compelling argument or present empirical concrete evidence to me that there is. In not making a claim about the existence of something, there's nothing for me to prove; that burden lies upon those making the claim. So, no, I don't think atheism is a "faith"… it's more like the natural state of affairs.
Sounds like you’re an agnostic, not an athiest. An athiest has to believe there is no god, not just be unconviced of a god’s existance. You can’t prove there is no god any more than Charity Tensel can prove there is a god. Both positions require a leap of faith. Agnosticism requires no faith because agnostics makes no claim either way.
I see your point. I haven't quite figured out where I stand on the agnostic/atheist front. I do believe, unequivocally, that the Judeo-Christian/Islamic god is a crock of shit; there's no possible way it could be true. As to anything else, I'm leaning towards "remotely possible but highly improbable". I've sometimes wondered if I'm what's known as as "apathetic agnostic", meaning that even if there is some sort of godlike thing out there, it's not interested in or affecting humans in any way that I'm aware of, so it doesn't really matter one way or the other.
Hey, how did I get brought into this? Apologetics is not my strong suit, but that doesn't mean God doesn't exist.
Actually, It’s a little more complicated than my simple definitions in the last comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athiest
So…um, yeah.
For me I figure there’s gotta be something, or else we wouldn’t be here. I don’t believe in Beatles, but I do believe in me at least. Cogito ergo whatever. And it’s comforting to believe that if Bernie Sanders were to run over my wife and son with his blue sedan at the top of Church Street, they’d go to heavan. (Red lights apply to senators too, Bernie!)
Anyway- I think Kathy Griffin got a nose job, and that’s too bad. My mother’s maiden name is Griffin. I wonder if Kathy is a cousin. She should lay off that whole Seinfeld is evil thing.
I’m losing it today.
Why is it that the longer you hang out here, the nuttier you get, Haik?
She got a nose job? I think she needs a nose job.
Aw Charity, nobody's picking on you.
Hey, how did I get brought into this?
You got brought in as an example of someone who believes in God, is all.
Why is it that the longer you hang out here, the nuttier you get, Haik?
Well, maybe because here chaos is always imminent. That's alot of pressure. I can only view this blog in four and a half minute intervals if I want to avoid chaos. Makes me nutty.
Chaos is always imminent at this blog. I can only be here four and a half minutes at a time, before I log out and then back in again. Makes me nutty.
That, without a doubt, is probably the wittiest, funniest thing ever said on this blog. If you hang around for the full five, you end up like me. Thanks.