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	<title>Comments on: CFI catches textbook propaganda</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Eldred</title>
		<link>http://fivebeforechaos.com/2008/04/15/cfi-catches-textbook-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Eldred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!

The arguments supporting intelligent design, um, theory, remind me of Sir Bedevere&#039;s &quot;logic&quot; to determine whether or not Carol Cleveland was witch in Monty Python&#039;s Holy Grail.
&lt;strong&gt;BEDEVERE:&lt;/strong&gt; So, logically... &lt;strong&gt;VILLAGER #1:&lt;/strong&gt; If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she&#039;s made of wood. &lt;strong&gt;BEDEVERE:&lt;/strong&gt; And therefore? &lt;strong&gt;VILLAGER #2:&lt;/strong&gt; A witch! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!</p>
<p>The arguments supporting intelligent design, um, theory, remind me of Sir Bedevere&#8217;s &#8220;logic&#8221; to determine whether or not Carol Cleveland was witch in Monty Python&#8217;s Holy Grail.<br />
<strong>BEDEVERE:</strong> So, logically&#8230; <strong>VILLAGER #1:</strong> If&#8230; she&#8230; weighs&#8230; the same as a duck,&#8230; she&#8217;s made of wood. <strong>BEDEVERE:</strong> And therefore? <strong>VILLAGER #2:</strong> A witch!</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I know. Hell, VT even had a eugenics project in the early 20th century. I guess what I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s completely disingenuous for Stein to insinuate any sort of responsibility for the Holocaust on Darwin, when the blame lies with those who misunderstood or twisted Darwin&#039;s theories.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know. Hell, VT even had a eugenics project in the early 20th century. I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that it&#8217;s completely disingenuous for Stein to insinuate any sort of responsibility for the Holocaust on Darwin, when the blame lies with those who misunderstood or twisted Darwin&#8217;s theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Eldred</title>
		<link>http://fivebeforechaos.com/2008/04/15/cfi-catches-textbook-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Eldred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What must you think of me?

I was referring to eugenics, the pseudo-science that was influenced in large part by Darwin&#039;s theory of evolution, and used as a basis for turn of the century progressive social policies.  The Holocaust was the extreme result of the Nazi Party&#039;s extreme progressive social policies.  They institutionalized and mandated survival of the fittest, only they were the ones deciding who was and wasn&#039;t fit.

I agree that evolution &lt;em&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;a theory, but a fact supported by 150 years of scientific inquiry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What must you think of me?</p>
<p>I was referring to eugenics, the pseudo-science that was influenced in large part by Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution, and used as a basis for turn of the century progressive social policies.  The Holocaust was the extreme result of the Nazi Party&#8217;s extreme progressive social policies.  They institutionalized and mandated survival of the fittest, only they were the ones deciding who was and wasn&#8217;t fit.</p>
<p>I agree that evolution <em>not </em>a theory, but a fact supported by 150 years of scientific inquiry. </p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Ryan</title>
		<link>http://fivebeforechaos.com/2008/04/15/cfi-catches-textbook-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D. Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, wdh3 is kidding, Mike.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Darwinism is not a science or a pseudoscience, it&#039;s a theory that is pretty much as close to a scientific law as you can get. The burden of the Holocaust lies with solely with the Nazis. The master race nonsense would have existed in some form, Darwin or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ID is  like homeopathy or something. It makes up its own &quot;science&quot; that fails under even the most cursory scrutiny. It&#039;s really just an attempt to legitimize creationism and assuage the disconnect that believers have that shows how ridiculous the creation myth is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wdh3 is kidding, Mike.</p>
<p>Darwinism is not a science or a pseudoscience, it&#8217;s a theory that is pretty much as close to a scientific law as you can get. The burden of the Holocaust lies with solely with the Nazis. The master race nonsense would have existed in some form, Darwin or not.</p>
<p>ID is  like homeopathy or something. It makes up its own &#8220;science&#8221; that fails under even the most cursory scrutiny. It&#8217;s really just an attempt to legitimize creationism and assuage the disconnect that believers have that shows how ridiculous the creation myth is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Eldred</title>
		<link>http://fivebeforechaos.com/2008/04/15/cfi-catches-textbook-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Eldred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how they might draw the lines, but it&#039;s a specious argument.  The reality is that it was pseudo-science that was &quot;partially responsible for the Holocaust.&quot;  Intelligent Design is pseudo-science, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how they might draw the lines, but it&#8217;s a specious argument.  The reality is that it was pseudo-science that was &#8220;partially responsible for the Holocaust.&#8221;  Intelligent Design is pseudo-science, too.</p>
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		<title>By: wdh3</title>
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		<dc:creator>wdh3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you don&#039;t know that Darwinism was partially responsible for the Holocaust?  Asshole...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you don&#8217;t know that Darwinism was partially responsible for the Holocaust?  Asshole&#8230;</p>
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