Now, given my current standpoint on religion, I never think any new houses of worship are a good thing, although I’m not about to advocate banning ‘em. But this whole “mosque at Ground Zero” thing is yet another thing that convinces me we are truly Redneck Nation.
Putting aside the fact that in the immediate vicinity of Ground Zero, there’s a few other mosques, titty bars, gay bars and several other things that conservatives object to when they’re not secretly going to them (except for the mosque, of course, we can’t have that… plus whatever goes on there might not be in English), why on earth should anyone give a flying fuck about this? Seriously. Will the ghosts of the WTC hijackers be attending this mosque? What are you tough-talking pants-pooping chickenshits afraid of?
Well, to answer that question, unfortunately, we have to poke our noses into the mouthbreathing, paranoid, delusional far-right blogosphere, more specifically, something by a WATB named Brian Fischer. Fischer blogs for the hate-group known as the American Family Association. With quaking, greasy fingers, he wipes the piss and shit off of his keyboard long enough to tell us:
Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government.
Each one is a potential jihadist recruitment and training center, and determined to implement the “Grand Jihad” of which Andy McCarthy has written.
Really? Each one? For “evidence” he makes the huge jump citing some radical Muslim, who obviously speaks for all Muslims, right? Just like nutters like Tony Perkins, Mike Huckabee, and hell, Fred Phelps speak for all Christians, of course. Or I speak for all atheists, for that matter.
Now, for a contrasting viewpoint, look at what not-nearly-as-crazy-as-Fischer conservative Jeffrey (not Jonah) Goldberg (ADDENDUM: Yes, I know Goldberg’s a warmongering dolt – he just has a momentary lapse of insanity here) at the Atlantic has to say about the Cordoba Initiative (the mosque in question):
This seems like such an obvious point, but it is apparently not obvious to the many people who oppose the Cordoba Initiative’s planned mosque in lower Manhattan, so let me state it as clearly as possible: The Cordoba Initiative, which is headed by an imam named Feisal Abdul Rauf, is an enemy of al Qaeda, no less than Rudolph Giuliani and the Anti-Defamation League are enemies of al Qaeda. Bin Laden would sooner dispatch a truck bomb to destroy the Cordoba Initiative’s proposed community center than he would attack the ADL, for the simple reason that Osama’s most dire enemies are Muslims. This is quantitatively true, of course — al Qaeda and its ideological affiliates have murdered thousands of Muslims — but it is ideologically true as well: al Qaeda’s goal is the purification of Islam (that is to say, its extreme understanding of Islam) and apostates pose more of a threat to Bin Laden’s understanding of Islam than do infidels.
Treason! Traitor! Giving aid and comfort to the enemy! Socialist! Ack!
Yes, Jeffrey, it is an obvious point… to one who, you know, pays attention to facts and stuff, not someone who takes his marching orders from some Michelle Malkin or some similar waste of oxygen. Fischer closes his rant with this gem… who’s to say he’s not open-minded?
American Muslims are being radicalized every single day in American mosques. We are sowing the seeds of our own destruction by allowing these improvised explosive devices to be established in community after community.
If a mosque was willing to publicly renounce the Koran and its 109 verses that call for the death of infidels, renounce Allah and his messenger Mohammed, publicly condemn Osama bin Laden, Hamas, and Abdelbaset al Megrahi (the Lockerbie bomber), maybe then they could be allowed to build their buildings. But then they wouldn’t be Muslims at that point, now would they?
Fair enough. Now, let’s just say that there was a big uproar about a megachurch going up somewhere next to the Smithsonian or some other place that celebrates knowledge, and there was a big stink about it. I’d say to Fischer…
“American Christians are being radicalized every single day in American megachurches. We are sowing the seeds of our own destruction by allowing these improvised explosive devices to be established in community after community.
If a megachurch was willing to publicly renounce the Bible and its endless verses that call for the death of non-believers and those who enjoy shrimp or touching menstruating women, renounce Jesus and his messenger Paul, publicly condemn Tony Perkins, The American Family Association, Focus on the Family, creationism, homophobia and Phyllis Schafly, maybe then they could be allowed to build their buildings. But then they wouldn’t be Christians at that point, would they?”